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My main pain reliever for fibromyalgia and cerebral palsy is Soma (generic name Carisoprodol). There have been accusations that Soma makes me high, as in drug high, as in OMG illegal street drug high. No. This is not true. I may say, "Oh, hey, Soma kind of makes me feel like I'm high!" but the truth is that the reactions I have to the drug are not the reactions of someone on a street drug. Carisoprodol is an analgesic muscle relaxant that centrally acts on the musculoskeletal system. In a nutshell, it relieves pain and loosens tight muscles. (Yes, there is a potential for abuse. I am completely aware of this.)
When I take a 350 mg pill of Soma, this is what happens: The muscles afflicted by cerebral palsy begin to do something that they are literally unable to do on their own: Relax and loosen. Completely. This is such an alien feeling that sometimes all I can to is sit frozen in shock, following the sensation as it floods my body from head to toe. I call it air conditioning under my skin because that is the only comparison I can usually think of. Or rather... imagine how sore and tense and spastic and clenched a muscle group can get due to overuse and soreness, and the imagine it suddenly, violently loosening, almost a mico-explosion of relaxation. It makes you want to break down crying, doesn't it? It just feels so fucking good, doesn't it? No pain makes you feel ecstatic! All you want to do is lay there for a few minutes, maybe hugging a pillow as your senses implode. Sometimes I cry for hours, because I cannot describe what is happening to me, this wonderful thing that will fade in a few hours, this total lack of pain, this total lack of hypertonia!
This is not me being high. My body, which is in constant pain, will eat up the medication to try and bring me to normal. But my version is normal is permanent hypertonia and pain. So, what sort of normal does this medication get me to? It gets me to everyone else's normal. By everyone else, I mean people who don't have hypertonia or similar muscle issues, of course. And everyone else's normal is my high. I don't know what that feels like without a proper muscle relaxant.
Do you get it now? Low, normal, high. Basic stages.
So, quit insisting that this medication makes me a junkie, fuckheads. Better yet, please spend a week in my body, in my brain. Then tell me what it's like. Bet that would shut you up real quick.

I had more to say, but it has fallen apart. Those who know exactly what I mean are more than welcome to add things.

Date: 2009-09-12 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sitapixie.livejournal.com
I'm sorry that you had to write this but thank you. I haven't had anyone accuse me of being an addict or 'pill popper'...yet. I do get from some coworkers the "omg I love how Soma makes me feel, I get so fucked up from it, can I get one from you" or strangely enough "omg you take Ultram? can I get one from you because get fucked up from that and it's so much fun". My reaction is, of course, "no, I need these to function. Without it I wouldn't be able to work at all". It so frustrating! I'm not your dealer or pill provider. :\

Date: 2009-09-12 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sitapixie.livejournal.com
The Ultram was strange because really...ultram? That would not be my drug of choice if I was a drug seeker. I don't get altered or high from it at all. It used to make me drowsy but that's about it.

Date: 2009-09-12 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
I too have heard that a lot of people looking to get high try to get Ultram, I'm just not sure why. What does it do for you?

Date: 2009-09-13 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sitapixie.livejournal.com
Makes me not hurt. Heh. When I first started taking it I did get a little stoned feeling from it but I'm extremely sensitive to meds. Now it works a bit like ibuprofen would if it actually worked on fibro pain. It used to work great but since I've been on it long enough to build up a bit of a tolerance, it doesn't work as well. However it still works and is better than nothing so I stay on it.

Date: 2009-09-13 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Sounds about right. When I first started Flexeril (before I found Soma), I would feel stoned every time I took a pill. Then, gradually, I just started feeling less pain.

Date: 2009-09-12 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
That's... disturbing, that your coworkers would do that. Huh.

Sure, I like how Soma makes me feel, but that's because it, oh, I dunno, makes my pain go away? Really people! I'm not in it to get fucked up! I take it so I can clean my house and take a walk and dance without sobbing in pain later!
*laughs*

Date: 2009-09-13 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sitapixie.livejournal.com
To be honest it was one person and well...he has problems with alcohol (not quite an alcoholic but almost one) and I wasn't too surprised he said that but once he found out about my health problems, he stopped asking and he only asked me once. I think he felt a little guilty about it because he is a nice guy...just one with problems with substances.

Date: 2009-09-13 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Ahhh, I understand. I hope he can get help.

Date: 2009-09-12 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unico-love.livejournal.com
I'm sorry people are being rude to you about that.:-(

The compound pharmacist I saw to get my testosterone was really anti-all my medications (mostly psychiatric medications). He even told my mother (though I'm 26 years old) that "they" need to get me off these medications. Never mind that I get suicidal and very manic if I stop taking my medication... My psychiatrist had to call the pharmacist and explain the situation to him. I don't get highs from my medication either, I just feel much more sane.

Date: 2009-09-12 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
What?! That's ridiculous! Sometimes I wonder why some people become pharmacists!

Date: 2009-09-24 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenlyzard.livejournal.com
whoa... that pharmacist needs to be fired ASAP, before his prejudices get someone killed.

Date: 2009-09-24 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unico-love.livejournal.com
It was really weird...

Date: 2009-09-12 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokio.livejournal.com
I have taken Soma before. It did not do a single thing except relieve the tension in my jaw. (Sometimes during panic attacks, my jaw clenches and it's like WILL. NOT. OPEN.)

Date: 2009-09-12 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Well, at least it worked for that one thing. :)

I am happy to hear when a drug I take doesn't work for someone else, because it shows how people are so different.

Date: 2009-09-13 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokio.livejournal.com
I know, right? People are so surprised when I say that Soma barely helped me at all. Then again, I have a feeling it's one of those drugs that might only work if you're really in a whole hell-load of pain, and mine was only about a 5. It was only the panic attack compounding it. It definitely didn't make me high at all, though. Actually, most drugs don't, and, if they do, it's over really fast. I metabolize drugs really quickly.

So when were you diagnosed with fibromyalgia? Did you have it for a long time, unknowingly, or did it sneak up on you?

Date: 2009-09-13 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
I had it for many many years, but never actually imagined it was fibromyalgia. I didn't even know what fibromyalgia was until 2006, when I had a particularly bad flare and looked up my symptoms. But I decided to wait a year to see if it really was what I thought it was. So I was not diagnosed until 2007. The going theory is that the fibromyalgia is linked to the cerebral palsy.

Soma doesn't do much for my husband, either. His doctor had put him on Soma in 2008 for back pain, and it barely touched the pain. But I tried it, and holy yay did it help.

Ignore them

Date: 2009-09-12 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seferin.livejournal.com
The lack of pain can be ecstasy in itself, and no one who knows would accuse you of such.

Re: Ignore them

Date: 2009-09-12 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Naturally. Thanks. :)

Date: 2009-09-12 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fionavere.livejournal.com
I cannot even imagine what you go through on a daily basis. You will get no judgment from me.

Date: 2009-09-12 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
I know, hon. And I love that my friends understand.

Date: 2009-09-12 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwynethfar.livejournal.com
Oh, you mean like how a friend of mine insists that I'm not actually in pain, and vicodin and tylenol 3 my doctor prescribed are just to get me high?

Date: 2009-09-12 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Just like that!

Puts you in the mood for some stranglin', doesn't it?

Date: 2009-09-12 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwynethfar.livejournal.com
I give her a pass, because her mother really was addicted to vicodin and oxycotin. She died right in front of her at the kitchen table, without any warning, last February. So I understand the, "all pharmaceuticals are evil" thing, even if it makes me crazed.

Date: 2009-09-13 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Oh, fuck, ouch. I get it now. She would get a pass from me too.
I certainly understand her mindset, as throttle-inducing as it is. A dear friend of mine lost her mother a while back due to pharmaceutical abuse, too. She was really worried for a while about all prescriptions, but not to the "all pharmaceuticals are evil" point. It seems to affect everyone differently.

Date: 2009-09-12 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwynethfar.livejournal.com
Oh, but I have to tell you, Soma got me incredibly high, so I can't take it. I don't know what it is about it, but I got a sample of it and I was wicked high. Not for me. Also, gave me a monstrous headache.

Now, if I were the judging type, I would go, "Oh, Soma MUST get you high," but I have a brain and therefore know that side effects affect people differently, and it is possible that it made me high as a kite and in migraine hell without doing those same things to you.

Date: 2009-09-12 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
I totally believe that some patients really truly DO get high on Soma (probably why it's now a controlled drug in many European countries). I also hear that it can exacerbate migraine pain in some.

What sort of high did you get, what sensations? I'm curious. At the beginning, my own body's reaction to Soma made me so deliriously ecstatic I really thought I was high, before I realized that, no, I was feeling normal and just really really happy about it.

Date: 2009-09-12 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwynethfar.livejournal.com
I was confused and wandering around and I could not focus at all. I felt like a stroke patient, and I didn't like it.

Date: 2009-09-13 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
*nods* Yeah, not good. Glad you decided not to take it! I hear that reaction is sort of common.
(I feel like my reaction is slightly uncommon or unusal.)

Sorry if I've ranted this rant before...

Date: 2009-09-12 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowcoma.livejournal.com
Fuck those people with a rake.

My mother had something similar happen to her from a friggin' pharmacy technician. My mother has severe degenerative spinal arthritis, fibromayalgia, and epilepsy with grand mals so severe that she damages her spine more with each one. She is on high dosages of vicodin and methadone to survive the pain, actually being functional is another matter entirely.

She was at the pharmacy getting a refill, and the technician kept shooting her scornful glances and saying "METHADONE" really loudly, i.e., "Here is your METHADONE Mrs. S*****". Now, for those not in the know, methadone is usually used to treat recovering heroin addicts, and it's the kind of shit that people will kill to get. If the wrong person had overheard that little exchange, my mom could have been fucking stabbed in the parking lot.

The good part of this story is that the next time I went to pick up her medication, the same woman brought it to me, and I very calmly, very quietly growled out said "My mother is not a drug addict, she has degenerative spinal arthritis. She is on this because her spine is crumbling" (I managed not to tell her to go vacation in a burning building). I don't know whether it was shame at her own actions or fear of the six feet of angry, leather-clad goth staring her down, but she lowered her head and didn't raise it through the rest of the transaction.

Then I spoke with the (very nice) manager of the pharmacy and explained that I felt her actions were not only judgmental but had endangered my mother's life. She was promptly fired, and the staff there has been nothing but friendly since.


Also, for the longest time I assumed that Soma was an herbal supplement you were taking right along with the acai berries and lotus extract. XD
Edited Date: 2009-09-12 11:17 pm (UTC)

Re: Sorry if I've ranted this rant before...

Date: 2009-09-12 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Oh, your poor mother; I want to cuddle her and give her kittens.

The lady was fired, oh wow. Good on the manager!

Soma, the elixir, actually is an herbal supplement! It even has blue lotus in it! Carisoprodol was sort of named after it. *grin*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soma
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Soma

Re: Sorry if I've ranted this rant before...

Date: 2009-09-13 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowcoma.livejournal.com
At least I wasn't COMPLETELY off-base, hehehe.

But yeah, the people that think that management of chronic pain makes you a drug seeker can just drink dishwater and die. They're in the same camp with the people who think fibromyalgia is fake, or that clinical depression is cured by moonbeams and fairy farts.

*gentle hugs*

Re: Sorry if I've ranted this rant before...

Date: 2009-09-13 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Moonbeams, fairy farts, and unicorn horns, thank you.

Re: Sorry if I've ranted this rant before...

Date: 2009-09-14 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowcoma.livejournal.com
Well, if you need the unicorn horns, clearly you're not trying hard enough! ;)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Obviously not! The unicorn horns are for the really serious cases.
But I'm much better now. Those unicorn horns, man, they are fantastic.
From: [identity profile] snowcoma.livejournal.com
I just want to clarify that my moonbeams-and-fairy-farts rant is directed at the people who think that slapping on a smile and faking it is the cure for depression, not me attacking people who choose alternative methods besides medication. My few months of intensive therapy did more for me than the pills I take daily, to be honest.

Okay, seriousness done for now. SPARKLEY UNICORNS!!!!!!
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
It's all good, obviously this is all in fun. :D
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Re: Sorry if I've ranted this rant before...

Date: 2009-09-13 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowcoma.livejournal.com
You can bet that if my mom HAD been hurt because of that, I would have done the legal equivalent of skinning that bitch alive!

Luckily, the girl that replaced her is a total sweetheart.

Re: Sorry if I've ranted this rant before...

Date: 2009-09-13 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
This is partly why I want to eventually work in a pharmacy, so I can be that total sweetheart.

Re: Sorry if I've ranted this rant before...

Date: 2009-09-13 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sitapixie.livejournal.com
Wow....just wow.. I can't believe that the pharmacist did that! Your poor mother. Good for you for getting her fired!

I've always counted myself lucky that I have a very understanding pharmacist, especially when I picked up a new script for Savella (which didn't work). All she said was "you have fibromyalgia? I'm so sorry and I hope this helps."

Re: Sorry if I've ranted this rant before...

Date: 2009-09-13 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Wow, what an awesome pharmacist!

Re: Sorry if I've ranted this rant before...

Date: 2009-09-13 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokio.livejournal.com
:(((((

Sending hug-vibes to your mama!

people suck all too often

Date: 2009-09-13 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alumiere.livejournal.com
i totally understand what you're saying; i had to get past my own discomfort with some of my pain meds as my body has fallen apart and gotten worse over the last year

but these days i simply take what i'm supposed to and slowly try to adapt to new meds and side effects (go go nsaid allergies and heparin contra-indications) - i still don't like the side effects of darvon or codeine (night sweats, strange dreams), and i only take the ketamine when i absolutely cannot sleep because i hurt so bad after my daily pain meds and muscle relaxers (it makes me hallucinate and gives me horrifying dreams, but at least i can sleep)

and i know people who would happily take my meds, cut them up into lines and snort them for fun - luckily most people seem to understand

someone above commented on ultram - that one's been prescribed and relegated to the no way, no how bin - it actually gives me migrains every fucking time i've tried it (which i've done on several occasions as my docs say it should help) - and i don't usually get migraines

and i'm going to ask my doctor about soma next appointment - if i'm understanding what i'm reading it may allow me to reduce my doses of painkillers more than flexoril

Re: people suck all too often

Date: 2009-09-13 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
It really is so fascinating to hear about various people's different reactions to medications!

I was taking Flexeril for quite some time before I found Soma, and I decided that the Soma worked better. But it's nice to have Flexeril on my medical record so I can ask for a prescription in the future.

Date: 2009-09-13 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hilarina.livejournal.com
I'm glad you are able to have some relief at times.

Date: 2009-09-24 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenlyzard.livejournal.com
*hugs* I'm sorry anyone was asshatful enough to say such things to you in the first place. Chronic pain sucks beyond the telling of it.

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