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Dear fundamentalist fascist fucks who have decided that all American women must be "pre-pregnant" and our condition be known as "pre-conception":
Sorry, I am not one of your baby-making factories and I never will be. This is just another way you want to take over my body and destroy my liberty as a human.
Fuck you.
This is why I am a libertarian.

http://sealgair.livejournal.com/117579.html

Quotes from the original linked post:

kicue: "So if I'm pre-pregnant (in a state where I may, one day, be pregnant), does this make me pre-fat, pre-cancerous, pre-old, pre-dead, and pre-menopausal too?"

annwyd: "Wow, now women don't even have to have a baby inside them to be considered more important as baby factories than as actual people! What progress!"

narli: "Yes, women must be made ultra-fertile to produce super healthy babies. Because what a world with resources stretched to the limit needs is MORE PEOPLE."

Date: 2006-05-17 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] satyrblade.livejournal.com
One more step toward The Handmaid's Tale. Margot Atwood said that she wrote that story to show what the fundamentalist agenda looked like when taken to its demi-logical extreme. Now we see that she may have been being optimistic. This is what happens when you cross political agendas, religious fundamentalism, wonky science and sexual politics together. Truly frightening stuff. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! See my LJ for my response to it.

Date: 2006-05-17 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Just the term "sexual politics" scares me.

Date: 2006-05-17 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceruleanbluegal.livejournal.com
Snarl! This crap makes me so fucking mad!!

Date: 2006-05-17 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Think the morons will figure that out after we rage hard enough?

Date: 2006-05-17 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fadingmemories.livejournal.com
I've posted this in my journal and I'll post it on myspace as well, this is sickening. Guidelines like this shouldn't be set up. I agree with the others, this sounds far to much like The Handmaids Tale. That story creeped me out because it seemed much more than simple fiction.

Date: 2006-05-17 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] funkergirl.livejournal.com
I can see both sides of it. I mean, if you do perchance get pregnant, it is better if your body is in a good place to be that way and carry it to term. And most pregnancies are unplanned. I wasn't "planned" to happen, and neither was my brother. I don't think my mother was being too unhealthy at the time, (other than being on the pill when I was conceived). So, being healthy and telling women to be healthy, just in case, isn't totally bad.

Buuuuut...on the other hand, I DO NOT like to be told what to do. Period. I never have, even when I was an infant. My whole life I haven't liked it. If I want to be unhealthy, damnit I will be. If I want to be pregnant, I will be. If am not healthy or in a place to have a child, either I will abort it, or I will take it to term and place it up for adoption. Again, MY CHOICE. I refuse to let some jackass xtian moron tell me that since I am a healthy woman in my child bearing years I have to "prepare" for the inevitable.

One interesting side note...the gentleman that I worked for years ago (the tiger guy) asked if I would take 50k to become infertile. I said resoundingly yes. I waver a bit now, but he, like me, feels that this planet is not cabable of handling the human life it has now. And we keep adding more. *shrug*

Just my $0.02.

Date: 2006-05-18 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
50K, really? Damn! For that much I'd do it too and adopt.
What do you mean, though "become" infertile? Tubes tied? Hysterectomy? Eggs taken?

Date: 2006-05-18 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] funkergirl.livejournal.com
Well, I didn't expand on the thought (sorry).

It was a hypothetical question. He is very against having kids and adding to the world's population. He isn't what I would call a hippie, but he definately had some very interesting ideas of how things should be. I learned alot from that man. :)

And the question was posed to the guys and the girls. I would say for the women it would be tubes tied. A hysterectomy is a radical and invasive surgery for women. Cutting the tubes is not as invasive as it used to be, and is pretty easy and commonplace.

I am still not 100% sure what I want to do about the kid question. Somedays I think yes, most days I think no. I am very happy with the way my life is now, and with kids it would change dramatically. I'm not ready for that. Not to mention, I don't really have the ability to care for them monetarily.
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Date: 2006-05-18 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightlotusmoon.livejournal.com
Go for it! The more the merrier.

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